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Magr'ateth // Loiec k'Tiermant ([personal profile] noble_sin) wrote2037-02-08 10:19 am
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Let me know which, if any of these, you're fine with happening in relation to your character. Or if not, we can work around that!

1. Sin-sensing:

By being in the presence of a creature or object, Magr'ateth can get a sense of the moral standing of that person. This follows a mix of objective and subjective rules. Most particularly, volition is vital. A wild animal or a non-intelligent robot, for example, will simply not register at all to this sixth sense, regardless of what acts it's been involved in. A thoroughly insane person, too, will be a nonentity to this sixth sense, though a sociopath who intellectually knows better but still indulges in harmful acts will ping on it.

This gives a general sense of the uprightness or wickedness of what Magr'ateth encounters, though most people fall into a broad and mostly-ignored middle band of only a little bit tilted towards one or the other. Devoted sinners or saints will stand out more obviously. Violent or cruel acts have the greatest influence, but they aren't required; an incredibly greedy and gluttonous merchant may well stand out more than someone who once killed a man in a fit of passion.

This is a magical sense, and magical effects or dampening can interfere with it. Technology normally presents no special direct defense against it, but dealing with things like AIs could return such muddled results as to be useless. It's also independent of actual, physical senses—if there was a saint's ghost wandering around, it would register, even if it had 0% physical presence and was completely impossible to otherwise interact with.

Since this all can be a pretty nebulous territory, especially where it interacts where the moralities of other characters, I'd prefer to work out the way Magr'ateth will sense characters with this in advance of a meeting happening.

2. Keen senses:

Outside of that supernatural sense, Magr'ateth has extremely keen normal senses - hearing, sight, scent, and even a sort of infra-red sense. He's likely to recognize characters by scent even if they change their looks, or to pick up on strange traits about other characters that way. He can potentially do Sherlock Holmes-style tricks of observation, too, though he hasn't really had enough exposure to humans to "connect the dots" in most cases.

3. Imitations:

Magr'ateth is a shapechanger - and can imitate other people fairly easily, though these imitations are generally incomplete, since he never has much reason to practice looking like other people much. Even with only a few minutes' work, though, he can copy the generalities of somebody's looks (and try to hide via mundane means the differences and "tells" that leak through the mask). With an extended period to practice he might be able to play body double to someone, though doing so would mean working around loopholes in the religious oaths he follows.

4. Aura of menace:

Magr'ateth has a lingering magical aura of danger about him, like the distilled essence of the menacing presence of large predators. Because of his age, it's normally quite weak enough that only animals can pick up on it, though characters with especially sharp mundane or magical senses might also get a hint of it.
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[personal profile] birdhousesoul 2012-02-11 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man okay I am up for this but. What would Magr'ateth sense about Justice? Because Justice is also Vengeance.

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[personal profile] boughtabookstore 2012-02-11 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ros probably falls under the pretty basic middle ground of things. A decent person who fought for the right reasons but has also done and is willing to do some not necessarily great things.
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[personal profile] clinical 2012-02-11 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Would past sins count in a bad direction? Jade is sort of an example of someone who intellectually knows better and who therefore does try to stop himself. He has no empathy or instinct for right and wrong, so he compensates by extrapolating the 'correct' moral path from what he thinks certain people he trusts and respects would believe to be right. But before he got there, he participated in extremely unethical scientific experimentation, so if it's sin that is sensed, there is a lot of sin sitting over here.
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[personal profile] obstinates 2012-02-11 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
1.
Like most shonen protatgonists, Naruto falls strictly on the good side, even more than some though. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being PUREST of the PURE, I'd put him at a 9.5. He'd be a 10, but he once faced his inner "dark-side" and acknowledged that it was a part of him (though if you want an example of just how pure he is, he beat his dark-side by hugging him).

He is extremely selfless to the point that he usually overburdens himself with everyone's problems just so they don't have to go through them, and in canon, he's currently fighting a war to change the entire world with the goal of getting rid of hatred once and for all.

So yeah, pretty pure. THOUGH he does have a perverted side, like most teenage males.

Also, there's a powerful demon fox sealed inside Naruto's body, so I dunno how that would affect Mag's senses.

2.
Naruto probably smells like earth, leaves, trees, and definitely ramen. His most noticeable trait is those whiskers on his cheeks, and there are a few scars here and there (though he usually wears clothes that cover all parts of his body except his hands, feet, and face). As for infra-sense? Naruto's body temperature is actually a lot higher than a normal person's because of the SHITLOAD of chakra (spiritual and physical energy) he has in his body. He'd probably... glow hotter than other people.

3.
Imitate away! Naruto has a technique that allows him to transform himself into perfect copies of people, so yeah, I am completely cool with him being imitated.

4.
Naruto does have the ability to sense life and nature around him, but dunno how it would do with Mag. In his "super" Naruto form, he is able to sense ill/bad/evil intent, so... /shrug.

TL;DR SORRY I GET LONG-WINDED
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[personal profile] flightlessbird 2012-02-12 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
For Artika here, and Laurence ([personal profile] bottlegreen)!

1) Artika would be in the broad middleground. She has her vindictive moments, but overall isn't a terrible awful person. Laurence would be edging toward saintly, with his horribly overpowering sense of duty and responsibility, but he's definitely not totally free of those basic human indulgences/wants/all that.

2) ARTIKA SMELLS LIKE BIRDS. Feathers and... feathers. And jungle, since she's so freshly out of it. Also like dragon, because she spends half her time as one! The basic smell would be the same in both shapes, with little changes for general body chemisty.
Laurence smells like DUTY AND HONOR. And also like dragon, wow is there a theme here or what, because he spends most of his time around one. Most recently he'd be totally saturated in sea-smells, having been on a boat for a month.

And then for the other two, SWEET, I WILL KEEP THOSE IN MIND, i'm all for them! 8)
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[personal profile] stonefaith 2012-02-12 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Hello, posting on behalf of Bariyan and Nikolai/[personal profile] thleepy! :D

Nik: is a robot, but I'll leave it completely up to you how much you want that to interfere with sin sensing. In any case, he practically does no wrong D: When he does do bad things (which he has) it's only because he was coerced into it, or he was protecting his friends, and he feels really wretched about them and... tries to deny that they ever happened...

Bariyan: is tricky. He's a zombie and his personality changed a lot after his death; basically, HE USED TO BE GOOD (or at least had good intentions), but then he died and now he's BITTER AND MAD. He's about two steps away from becoming horrible but so far he's kept himself in check. SO I'd say middleground for him? But with worrying potential to go dark side.
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[personal profile] garwithnobrakes 2012-02-12 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, okay, let's see ~ /rubs hands together

1. I'd say Gareas is mostly middle ground with a vague leaning towards good, considering he regularly puts his life on the line to defend humanity and whatnot. Though, for the most part he's just a normal trashtalking teenage boy. He has some darker tendencies but they're mostly directed inward/at himself. :E

2. Hahaha this probably won't even apply considering Garu is about as subtle as a brick house falling on you 90% of the time. He's not exactly the deceitful type. 8D;

3. Annnnd this one sounds like fun! I am open for shenanigans with this if they should ever be in a position to happen. c:
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[personal profile] garwithnobrakes 2012-02-12 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
2. ALTHOUGH I didn't realize there was actually supposed to be a scent pfffft let me see... Garu probably smells vaguely of liquor, lingering perfume, and lightning/electricity. I don't think space has a smell. XDD Though he might have noticeably less 'environment' smells clinging to him than others at first because he kind of lived on a space station/colony for his entire life. OH yeah there might be a bit of a metallic smell, too, most of the people in his canon have their bodies reinforced/patched up with automic, which I'm going to assume is metal-based (yay vague canons!).

[personal profile] mesovortice 2012-02-12 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hi!

John is almost always well-intentioned and hasn't done anything 'bad' besides some ultimately harmless pranks, as well as self-defense.
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[personal profile] curepotion 2012-02-12 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
1. Riku has a very strong presence and firm beliefs--he's done some pretty bad things, but things that are more or less classified as necessary evils, has done a few self-sacrifices, so it's possible he might ping either the very good end or the very bad end. I'm not sure if he'd even ping both--his intentions are good, the acts are bad, and the aftermath is good, so he's complicated.

2. His movements are sharp and always on-guard, save for several odd instances where he lapses into deep thought and almost seems to be completely vacant. As for scent, he smells strongly of sea, rain, forest and leather.

3. Permission to imitate granted, though Riku probably will immediately hate it and ask him to stop. He has imitation/replica problems. |D

4. Riku is particularly good at identifying and feeling out presences, magic and people's balance... so I'm thinking he'd be able to pick up on it, even if it's faint.
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[personal profile] alethiological 2012-02-12 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
I am prone to verboseness so sorry in advance for the WORDVOMIT BLUHHH yes.

1) Oh boy, this is fun. He's an angel, so his devotion to the almighty Father and following his commands to be a good person and all that fun stuff easily max out the moral meter and thensome. Laziness and blunt attitude aside, he's considerate of people's secrets and got himself killed just to save a single person who deserved to live and it's his duty to protect the innocent and care for all humans and try to make the world a better place and all that fun stuff.

Eeeeexcept he's from a branch of angels that, uhhhh, tends to brutally torture and exterminate witches, demons, grievous sinners, and the like. Because God says they're heretics and need to die and God is always right after all, and he's renowned for having a kill count that's pretty much countless and being a heartless judge without any mercy or empathy, etc. Aside from the few innocent ones who were cleared postmortem, he only cares in the sense that he has a personal dislike for murdering people. As far as guilt or regret goes, he has nothing. Because God said they were sinners and thou shalt not suffer a witch to live and all the rest, and it was God's command and God is always right.

Soooo............ Yeah. No idea how that would pick up.

2) For the scent part, he picks up as some kind of odd mix of 2/3rds bright light and untainted air, with a hint of wood polish, and 1/3rd mix of frankincense and book archives. For movements, he's all apathy and smooth movements, but it's less out of laziness and more like someone who doesn't need to use sharper movements. Also he's 6'4" so pretty easy to pick out in a crowd without resorting to scents or moral huntings.

3) Body stealing is totally cool with me, and Will would totally set password traps with people to keep Mag on his toes. Messing with body doubles is a fun game, don't hate.

4) He'd pick up on it, and then proceed to go about giving no shits about it. Judge by the heart, not by the aura, other sappy shit like that.

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[personal profile] llywelin 2012-02-12 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
1) Lion is stupidly pure and good and all that. Despite coming from a seriously messed up family, Lion is pretty much just hopes for the best in people and believes in them and blah blah I explain so well.

2) Lion would smell probably like the sea and roses and fresh tea. Less because it all sounds pretty and more because Lion inhales that stuff. Minus the sea but growing up with it and it being meaningful. Also Lion has been raised very strictly by a wealthy family, so very proper but naturally good posture, graceful, pretty standard issue perfect heir.

3) Lion had to get used to the idea of lookalikes pretty fast, so go for it!
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[personal profile] costumechanger 2012-02-13 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
1. Zoë would probably ping as being on the good end of the scale, though not near to maxing it out either, due to her actions as a superhero in her own world. She is kind of power-hungry, but she mostly wants it a) to help others and b) to feel like she's useful, and there are limits to what she'll do to get more power.

2. Zoë's movements are generally kind of bouncy, and she'd probably smell like electronics, old books, and ancient tombs. (Weird mix, I know, but she's from the future and helped her archeologist mom, so...)

3. Transformations are fine, she has both a shapechanger and an illusionist as teammates back home.

4. Zoë canonically has a bit of formal training in magic, so she'd probably pick up on the aura but only subtly.
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[personal profile] andromynous 2012-02-13 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with pretty much anything here!

Andromeda's daughter was a shapeshifter, though, so she might not react very well to that.
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[personal profile] prideofabh 2012-02-18 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
For mine (Lafiel/this account, Ai/[personal profile] allmylove_inspace, Georgia/[personal profile] truthaftertheend

1. About the only one I can see having a distinctly positive/negative ping is Ai (maybe Lafiel). Ai is a sweet woman who nearly gets herself killed because she refuses to take an injured terrorist/former friend's air. (And carrying her across the moon to find help, since she couldn't walk, was why Ai ran out of air first.) Lafiel maybe could have a slight negative streak; she's basically a good person, but at least once killed someone for interfering with a mission of hers. (Granted, he was committing high treason, then tried to kill her when kidnapping wasn't working, but she was pretty pleased with it.)

2. Mags may pick up that Lafiel's got some unusual sensory stuff herself from watching her. No distinct scents besides 'human' and what they work on. Georgia will almost always be in a suit or in quarantine, but it's possible to smell the Kellis-Amberlee virus when it's active (and maybe when it's dormant, as in George's case). Not just 'rot' -- George or Shaun note that recent outbreaks have a distinct smell. George's suit probably reeks of disinfectant.
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[personal profile] kingoflobsters 2012-02-18 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hrrrrm.

I am fine with all of these. A couple of notes:

1. Well, obviously, Duck has never hurt a fly. (maybe wanting to be with Mytho even though she knew he already belonged to Rue counts as a sin? idek, it didn't even work out and she knew it wouldn't work out and she was more concentrating on getting the pieces of his heart back and any apparent man-thievery was extremely superficial.)

Meanwhile, Edward killed his sister, but she was evil and needed to die, so I would hope that mitigates his sororicide.

4. I think Duck and Edward both will be able to percieve this 'aura of menace' given Edward's ability to smell one's soul, and the fact that Duck is, of course, a duck.

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[personal profile] fastestonnolegs 2012-02-18 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Emi pings neutral to good. Shirou is hellova good. Anna is neutral by way of atonement.

Likewise, Emi smells mostly of her physical exertions and prosthetics. Shirou smells like a forge's fire and of steel; and Anna smells of nightmares and other dreams, hot water, and rust.
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[personal profile] wwrathofangels 2012-02-18 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
1./ Okay, question: What if the killings would be immoral from Mag's standpoint but perfectly moral from Eridan's standpoint? Because he is technically responsible for a good number of deaths pre-SGRUB, thanks to FLARPing and feeding Gl'bgolyb. However, those deaths are seen as morally neutral in troll culture.

Not that this will help him too much otherwise. He still has that genocide complex and is entirely shellfish, so I imagine he'd ping somewhere on the negative side.

2./ Um... not sure what he'd smell like literally. Probably a bit damp and sea-like, all things considered? (Especially since he's hanging out more in the aquatic habitats these days.) Probably with a bit of Eau de Desperation as well.

Also, if Mag is used to dealing with warm-blooded creatures, Eridan will likely ping very low on the infrared. (Headcanon that is shared by most of the fandom: Cooler blood colours literally run colder temperature-wise. Headcanon that I haven't seen elsewhere: Seadwellers are like most other large creatures that can live underwater; warm-bodied. Which means their temperature is dependent on the outside environment, but unlike cold-blooded creatures their metabolism generally increases their body temperature above that of their surroundings by 5-20°F. Works great for cold environments... like, well, water. Not so great in hot environments.)

3./ I'm cool with it. I have no idea how chill Eridan would be with it but like I care about his opinions. :P

4./ Eridan would be wholly oblivious.
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[personal profile] wwrathofangels 2012-02-18 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course I think of this after I finally hit "Post Comment", but one could even argue that it would have been immoral for Eridan to not feed Gl'bgolyb, since that would have resulted in the death of most of the species. Thus those whose deaths he was complicit in... wellp. Better a few of them than countless others? So. Um. Yes. Fuzzy area, that.

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[personal profile] questionablewit 2012-02-21 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, so three people/things to work out here, sorta!

1) Hawke = good. Not a saint, but very determined to do what's right. Integrity rather than selflessness. She has killed a great deal, but pretty much only when attacked first or in general hostile situations. She's never committed murder. (though she has been an unwitting accessory to mass murder THANKS ANDERS).

Anyway, she's sharp enough that she would likely pick up on Mag's aura of danger, at least enough to draw her attention his way even if she didn't recognize why. And even if she doesn't...

2) Teo will, in a heartbeat, and would let Hawke know. Of course. ;) I take it Mag is going to smell like dragon and magic, which he certainly recognizes from long experience...any other particularly distinguishing things he might pick up? And Teo's moral standing...huh. Probably none, he's intelligent but he's still a dog and he follows where Hawke leads. If Hawke suddenly went haywire and ordered him to eat babies he probably wouldn't do it, but that's because he's smart enough to recognize that something was wrong with her.

3) Sparrowhawk/Ged. Oh, interesting. He's Taoist-based (well, sort of), it's all about balance and keeping it. He thinks less in terms of good and evil and more in terms of necessary. That said, he does no evil himself. But the good he does is mostly in the name of balance, to pay a debt or restore an equilibrium. He'd come across more neutral than good, I suspect. I doubt he'd pick up on the aura of danger, though he might guess something here is not what it seems just on the basis of a lifetime of looking beyond the surface of things.
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[personal profile] theguideless 2012-02-22 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
OH BOY OH BOY DRAGONSSSSSS

o1. Martin has no great acts of evil on his record, no matter what he convinces himself of. He's a good kid who just does what he's told, but shoulders the blame for some heinous stuff he didn't really cause. So I don't believe any notorious vibes will be emanating from him.

o2. Magr'ateth is welcome to pick up the sounds of bone-shifting/crunching under the skin prior to Marty managing to conjure his weapon.

o3. Dude go to town, hurt his thinky-brain.

o4. Martin's definitely going to be getting a bit of a ping on this one, if that's good with you!
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[personal profile] peachhat 2012-03-12 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
What about a character that
a)is objectively holy (as in, she lives in paradise, is a living saint, and so on)
b)does not act like it in any way, and is known in her canon mostly for large property damage and harassing people with bad weather

I would guess it'd be a bit of a weird contrast he'd feel (like food that's very sweet...but also has a noticeable salty taste, I think?) - but not really sure.

Hence a post here!

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[personal profile] yakuza_otaku 2012-03-20 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
While Kazumi isn't entirely selfless, she does have a strong will to protect people she cares about (and is likely to help random people in distress too) She's not one to kill her enemies, but if it becomes necessary she will resort to it. She may be the head of a yakuza group but she definitely runs it as more a helpful than harmful group.

While back home she has a harem (I don't know if this would figure into sin-sensing or not hahah), her not seeing anything wrong with it has more to do with her weird upbringing (or lack thereof kindof, due to manga influence), so I doubt this would have any affect on sin-sensing?